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	<title>Comments on: Ferrari Medicine: We don&#8217;t need more horsepower</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Stitt</title>
		<link>http://blog.crossoverhealth.com/2009/03/12/ferrari-medicine-we-dont-need-more-horsepower/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Stitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott - I&#039;m a consultant who has often heard hospital executives privately complain about the need to stay current in the Medical Arms Race in order to be competitive and attract top talent. Paul Levy is the only hospital CEO I can recall who has made the resulting utilization and cost factors a public matter and then reluctantly agreed to a surgical robot purchase for competitive and talent reasons.

Your mention of the shared common storefront approach in PHX explains why there are always long lines of happy patients in wheelchairs waiting to depart on Southwest flights at Sky Harbor Airport. Domestic medical tourism is the new reality because it delivers lower costs, better outcomes and happier patients. Hospital geographical proximity and 100% physician directed admission are being replaced by patients &amp; physicians sharing in the admit decision based on where the optimal outcome can be obtained at the most reasonable cost. In many cases, I also see the availability of superior patient/family amenities at a remote location being a deciding factor in the admit decision.

Instead of private surgical clinics competing with hospitals for lucrative outpatient procedures and margins, why don&#039;t hospital CEOs reach out to the relevant physicians in open practice scenarios and build the state-of-the art outpatient surgical centers that have comparable economics for the physicians and endorse practices that deliver better outcomes for the patients? Otherwise, we&#039;re just encouraging another Medical Arms Race, albeit with less expensive equipment in many cases. (Disclosure: Sure, I chose a private surgical clinic for a typical over-50 male elective procedure for all the reasons you mentioned. The heated blankets were a nice touch I&#039;ll always remember.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott &#8211; I&#8217;m a consultant who has often heard hospital executives privately complain about the need to stay current in the Medical Arms Race in order to be competitive and attract top talent. Paul Levy is the only hospital CEO I can recall who has made the resulting utilization and cost factors a public matter and then reluctantly agreed to a surgical robot purchase for competitive and talent reasons.</p>
<p>Your mention of the shared common storefront approach in PHX explains why there are always long lines of happy patients in wheelchairs waiting to depart on Southwest flights at Sky Harbor Airport. Domestic medical tourism is the new reality because it delivers lower costs, better outcomes and happier patients. Hospital geographical proximity and 100% physician directed admission are being replaced by patients &amp; physicians sharing in the admit decision based on where the optimal outcome can be obtained at the most reasonable cost. In many cases, I also see the availability of superior patient/family amenities at a remote location being a deciding factor in the admit decision.</p>
<p>Instead of private surgical clinics competing with hospitals for lucrative outpatient procedures and margins, why don&#8217;t hospital CEOs reach out to the relevant physicians in open practice scenarios and build the state-of-the art outpatient surgical centers that have comparable economics for the physicians and endorse practices that deliver better outcomes for the patients? Otherwise, we&#8217;re just encouraging another Medical Arms Race, albeit with less expensive equipment in many cases. (Disclosure: Sure, I chose a private surgical clinic for a typical over-50 male elective procedure for all the reasons you mentioned. The heated blankets were a nice touch I&#8217;ll always remember.)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Shreeve, MD</title>
		<link>http://blog.crossoverhealth.com/2009/03/12/ferrari-medicine-we-dont-need-more-horsepower/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Shreeve, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, 

Thanks for your very helpful comments. You must work or consult for a hospital feeling threatened by some of these perverse incentives?

The &quot;Medical Arms Race&quot; that you describe is an artifact of unenlightened hospitals fawning to the patients perception of quality - the latest, greatest, and most expensive. Instead of touting the latest technology, they should be touting their surgical infection rates, quality outcomes for various procedures, and the systematic improvements they increase value that have built into the patient experience.  It is analogous to the situation with car rentals - you have been to places where all the car rental shops have different locations, different lots, different sizes, etc? Well what happens (liken in PHX) when they build one common place where everybodies &quot;storefront&quot; is the same size and all those variations are removed? Quality goes way up, costs go way down, and everyone has to compete not just on price but on value. That is my message - have hospitals compete on value (outcome/price). This requires some re-education of the consumer (tall order I know!). 

In terms of the speciality surgical centers eating away at hospitals business - I am ALL for it. If they can do the procedures cost effectively with higher outcomes then they should do it. Big hospitals with conflated business plans are in real trouble . . . but that is a topic for another post. 

Keep commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, </p>
<p>Thanks for your very helpful comments. You must work or consult for a hospital feeling threatened by some of these perverse incentives?</p>
<p>The &#8220;Medical Arms Race&#8221; that you describe is an artifact of unenlightened hospitals fawning to the patients perception of quality &#8211; the latest, greatest, and most expensive. Instead of touting the latest technology, they should be touting their surgical infection rates, quality outcomes for various procedures, and the systematic improvements they increase value that have built into the patient experience.  It is analogous to the situation with car rentals &#8211; you have been to places where all the car rental shops have different locations, different lots, different sizes, etc? Well what happens (liken in PHX) when they build one common place where everybodies &#8220;storefront&#8221; is the same size and all those variations are removed? Quality goes way up, costs go way down, and everyone has to compete not just on price but on value. That is my message &#8211; have hospitals compete on value (outcome/price). This requires some re-education of the consumer (tall order I know!). </p>
<p>In terms of the speciality surgical centers eating away at hospitals business &#8211; I am ALL for it. If they can do the procedures cost effectively with higher outcomes then they should do it. Big hospitals with conflated business plans are in real trouble . . . but that is a topic for another post. </p>
<p>Keep commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan K. O'Rourke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan K. O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Scott your analysis is spot on. Ironically, what you describe is consistent with what exists in many &quot;legacy&quot; industries and organizations. The circumstances surrounding the &quot;health care&quot; business just make the situation more apparent; hence your Ferrari delivering a Pizza. This excellent analogy however is no different than many common practices that go unnoticed; from employers still requiring office workers to commute to work each day to elementary school children still being taught with chalk boards and text books. Much of what happens is unexamined and opportunities for improvement abound.

The reality is that until the status quo breaks down, people rarely change. Unfortunately, without the pain there will be no gain.

In the end, the most effective markets entail increasingly educated consumers motivated by their own self interests to freely choose from a number of alternate competitive suppliers in a transparent marketplace. As you are aware, most protectors of the status quo stand at the gate armed to keep the fore mentioned at bay because failing that they might have to consider that a Honda does a much better job for the money than their Ferrari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Scott your analysis is spot on. Ironically, what you describe is consistent with what exists in many &#8220;legacy&#8221; industries and organizations. The circumstances surrounding the &#8220;health care&#8221; business just make the situation more apparent; hence your Ferrari delivering a Pizza. This excellent analogy however is no different than many common practices that go unnoticed; from employers still requiring office workers to commute to work each day to elementary school children still being taught with chalk boards and text books. Much of what happens is unexamined and opportunities for improvement abound.</p>
<p>The reality is that until the status quo breaks down, people rarely change. Unfortunately, without the pain there will be no gain.</p>
<p>In the end, the most effective markets entail increasingly educated consumers motivated by their own self interests to freely choose from a number of alternate competitive suppliers in a transparent marketplace. As you are aware, most protectors of the status quo stand at the gate armed to keep the fore mentioned at bay because failing that they might have to consider that a Honda does a much better job for the money than their Ferrari.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Stitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Stitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you convince 4 large big brand hospitals competing for patient and physician attention, trust and admissions in a common urban service area that each does not need identical state-of-the art medical equipment (or a Ferrari, to use your symbol) with $1M plus price tags for elective procedures? How do you convince physicians that they should not open hospital-adjacent, state-of-the art private surgical clinics that effectively and efficiently compete with hospitals for high margin elective outpatient procedures like colonoscopies? Slow Medicine is a great concept but doesn&#039;t address the underlying drivers of increased healthcare costs and inefficient utilization of high price tag medical equipment. No argument that advanced medical equipment - like robotic surgery systems - save lives and deliver better patient outcomes. But does every hospital need a robotic surgical system? Might it be cheaper to buy plane tickets for patients who can benefit from robotic surgery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you convince 4 large big brand hospitals competing for patient and physician attention, trust and admissions in a common urban service area that each does not need identical state-of-the art medical equipment (or a Ferrari, to use your symbol) with $1M plus price tags for elective procedures? How do you convince physicians that they should not open hospital-adjacent, state-of-the art private surgical clinics that effectively and efficiently compete with hospitals for high margin elective outpatient procedures like colonoscopies? Slow Medicine is a great concept but doesn&#8217;t address the underlying drivers of increased healthcare costs and inefficient utilization of high price tag medical equipment. No argument that advanced medical equipment &#8211; like robotic surgery systems &#8211; save lives and deliver better patient outcomes. But does every hospital need a robotic surgical system? Might it be cheaper to buy plane tickets for patients who can benefit from robotic surgery?</p>
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